Summary Report ILSAC/OIL Meeting

2/12/2009

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Timetable/Timing
The Official GF-5 Timeline was reviewed by the committee and some modifications were considered.  The Official GF-5 Timeline is being updated and will be posted on www.GF-5.com as soon as it is available. 

First licensing, October 2010, is under review.  ILSAC is pushing to move first licensing back into August or September of 2010.

Test Updates
Sequence VID
• Step 1 is planned to complete near March 10.  Preliminary analysis and the final three reference tests per stand should complete about 4 weeks later

Sequence VG
• Average Rocker Arm Cover Sludge limits are still under review.  .  Issues relating to engine oil robustness are awaiting the outcome of the Sequence VID matrix and the setting of Sequence VID limits.

Sequence IIIGB
• The percent phosphorous limit is still under review.

Fresh Oil Foaming
• Further data submitted.  Still under discussion.

Elastomers
•  ILSAC/OIL voted to ask ASTM PCEOCP to request a Round Robin on elastomer compatibility (ASTM D7216 Annex A2).  The round robin has been outlined and should complete bout 9 weeks once it begins.
 
Turbo (TEOST 33C)
• Chrysler is developing data to justify test inclusion and limits.  Chrysler is reviewing the testing in light of a mechanical failure of the test apparatus.

TEOST MHT-4
Awaiting Sequence VID limits.  Issues relating to engine oil robustness are awaiting the outcome of the Sequence VID matrix and the setting of Sequence VID limits.

ROBO Update
ACC is still reviewing the need for parallel testing using the IIIGA.

HUEI
Whether to include HUEI as part of the ILSAC GF-5 Specification is still under discussion. 
Next Meeting

Current Engine Test Availability Issues
It was noted that all of the presently proposed GF-5 engine tests are facing challenges.  Seq IIIG is being evaluated for piston deposit severity.  Most labs are having difficulty calibrating stands for Seq IVA wear due to a mild trend.  Seq VG fuel will run out in 1H09.  A new batch is being qualified.  Seq VIB is being replaced by VID. Seq VIII bearings are being replaced by a new batch.

The next ILSAC/OIL call will be held on 2 Mar 09 at 1100 to discuss the Official ILSAC GF-5 Timeline in detail.